Comments on: Paul Graham’s Ladder of Disagreement http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/25/paul-grahams-ladder-of-disagreement/ Sat, 17 May 2008 00:01:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Principled Discovery » Promoting positive discussion http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/25/paul-grahams-ladder-of-disagreement/#comment-128 Principled Discovery » Promoting positive discussion Tue, 13 May 2008 15:34:18 +0000 http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/25/paul-grahams-ladder-of-disagreement/#comment-128 [...] the create debate blog stopped by to leave a link to another depiction of the same information.  I am rather partial to the pyramid, but you might like the ladder, too. This entry was written [...] [...] the create debate blog stopped by to leave a link to another depiction of the same information.  I am rather partial to the pyramid, but you might like the ladder, too. This entry was written [...]

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By: argumentative essay http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/25/paul-grahams-ladder-of-disagreement/#comment-110 argumentative essay Mon, 12 May 2008 13:43:07 +0000 http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/25/paul-grahams-ladder-of-disagreement/#comment-110 [...] [...] [...] [...]

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By: Mark http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/25/paul-grahams-ladder-of-disagreement/#comment-75 Mark Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:57:27 +0000 http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/25/paul-grahams-ladder-of-disagreement/#comment-75 I believe that your pyramid depiction provides a much better visual analogy for the idea than the ladder. Yes, the pyramid shows the frequency correctly, but it also gives rise to the notion that refutation is the pinnacle of argument while name-calling is the most base of arguments. Further, the ladder gives the false impression that in order to "reach" the better forms of argument you must begin with the lower forms. While each of us may begin with name-calling as children, we don't progress upwards through the other stages as maturity sets in. If you did want to make the ladder analogy apply, then perhaps you should show a ladder which descends into a sewer ... one would begin at the top in the fresh clean air and with each step downwards you would be closer to the filth. Nice graphics though, ass-hat! :) I believe that your pyramid depiction provides a much better visual analogy for the idea than the ladder.

Yes, the pyramid shows the frequency correctly, but it also gives rise to the notion that refutation is the pinnacle of argument while name-calling is the most base of arguments.

Further, the ladder gives the false impression that in order to “reach” the better forms of argument you must begin with the lower forms. While each of us may begin with name-calling as children, we don’t progress upwards through the other stages as maturity sets in.

If you did want to make the ladder analogy apply, then perhaps you should show a ladder which descends into a sewer … one would begin at the top in the fresh clean air and with each step downwards you would be closer to the filth.

Nice graphics though, ass-hat! :)

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By: Jay http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/25/paul-grahams-ladder-of-disagreement/#comment-74 Jay Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:11:38 +0000 http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/25/paul-grahams-ladder-of-disagreement/#comment-74 Assclown... love it! :D Assclown… love it! :D

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